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Why MW2 is unpatchable

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Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by RK1 Apocalypse on Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:49 pm

One of our tech guys over at RK1 explained why MW2 is unpatchable when it comes to hacks and whatnot. And excuse the BFBC2 reference.....it was brought up in a previous post and he explains why hacks in that game will never happen.

MW2's big and only problem is that it has Player hosted Multiplayer in combination with dynamically updatable playlists.

JTAG'ed Consoles are being used as Hosts in order to inject unsigned code into the cache of other Consoles (disguised as playlists) and that's why this problem is unpatchable.

We are not talking about the classic ways of cheating such as abusing weak level geometry (Getting into Walls / Under the Map) or Exploits (BF Worming / Quick Sniping).

This is a whole new level of cheating, they create their own modified code and settings and inject them to the game which then spreads over XBL.

Without a Reference Playlist Server (which IW cut due to running costs) there will be no way to gain control over the playlists and games that are offered in Matchmaking on XBL.

Remember my words, this Stuff will never be fully patchable! Once IW fixes some stuff by updating the playlist and blacklist some settings there will be new stuff coming from the hackers.

Now, if we talk about BF:BC2... this is a Dedicated Server game so all the settings, gamecode and playlists are stored on dedicated EA Servers and everyone who connects to it will just be a client with no ways to alter the gamecode.

There will be glitches and exploits but at least in BF:BC2's case this stuff will be patchable.

I just hope that the Video Game Industry learned something from MW2.

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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by Khaos on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:05 pm

This is very well patchable, because its only one code going through that the hackers are using to make the playlist if IW figured out that code they could very well patch it.

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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by RK1 Apocalypse on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:08 pm

Khaos wrote:This is very well patchable, because its only one code going through that the hackers are using to make the playlist if IW figured out that code they could very well patch it.

They are hackers. The code will always change. IW could find the code, patch it, and they will jus come up with another code.
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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by lawtondannyboy on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:10 pm

So what you're saying is that, once IW patch a code, another hacker will create a new and put the hacks there?
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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by RK1 Apocalypse on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:19 pm

lawtondannyboy wrote:So what you're saying is that, once IW patch a code, another hacker will create a new and put the hacks there?

Yup.
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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by Khaos on Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:21 pm

lawtondannyboy wrote:So what you're saying is that, once IW patch a code, another hacker will create a new and put the hacks there?
Basically that's why even though know matter how many times that 10th prestige Hack gets patched people will just recode it and release it again that's how hacks work once it gets patched the maker of the hack starts recoding it to bypass the patch and it just goes on and on sure it takes him a week or more to recode it but still you'll never really be able to stop them from doing it unless you find out where they live and send them to prison.....lol

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heres what you do. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION

Post by SergeantHatredx on Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:33 pm

repeat offenders and hackers who get caught or reported get a permant ban from xbox live. its a ban through the offenders system and IP address(they also use it through your phone provider which is also connected to your internet), so they can not sign in or create a new xbox live account account... EVER!!!

NOTE: all this is the same way with playstation network(PSN).
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so IMHO when you find or see a hacker just report them by filing a complaint for system tampering and another for cheating. That way microsoft can investigate and perform a permant ban on there account and system
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ADDITIONAL NOTES:
*I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S A MODERATOR AND WORKS FOR MICROSOFT/XBOX LIVE. SO THIS IS WHO I FOUND OUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENS TO YOUR ACCOUNT FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS

*ALSO I KNOW THAT PSN DOES THE SAME CAUSE I WAS ON A TEMPERARY BAN FOR 7DAYS. AND THEY TOLD ME WHAT HAPPEN IF I SCREWED UP AGAIN. I GOT BANNED FOR CUSSING OUT SOME PUNK ON PS HOME. AND PS HOME IS CONSIDERED A RATED E ENVIROMENT.


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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by Horrorman on Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:18 pm

I always wondered why IW/TA (Activision) are not able to give us dedicated servers, and a lot of problems would be solved from alone....
I think it´s due to Activision owns Demonware, that´s the company which is hosting the matchmaking servers...
It´s nearly impossible to "hack" dedicated servers...
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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by kniferun on Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:01 pm

i think they wont fix the online experience due to the fact people will buy and play the game for days no matter how bad it is. so why fix something that isnt broken. like its broken but not broken to the point where they lose money.

i dont see why they cant even out connections in a game. im always handcuffed by horrible delay. its annoying.

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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by Kyled55 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:50 pm

does anyone know how to report someone on PSN? website? anything? just so i can report anyone whos hacking noticeably
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Re: Why MW2 is unpatchable

Post by Khaos on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:25 pm

Kyled55 wrote:does anyone know how to report someone on PSN? website? anything? just so i can report anyone whos hacking noticeably
You need visual evidence of the person doing so such as a video clip of them doing it, also Xbox Live can IP ban hackers all they want there is such a thing called an IP address change so banning really don't stop them at all.

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