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Post by desertcamo on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:02 pm

IMO their shouldnt be the ability to choose nuke if playing a gamemode that relies on capturing objectives to win. This promotes players to not go for the win and camp for a nuke. Anyone that has been laying the smackdown in HQ or domination only to have the game end due to a nuke can attest to this.
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Post by Horrorman on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:08 pm

IMO the whole killstreak thingy is ruining the game, especially the Nuke one...
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by desertcamo on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:27 pm

I agree. I esp disagre with the care package giving AC130s and Chopper Gunners. Although most players tend to shoot down killstreaks more with their launchers thankfully.
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Post by MaTtKs on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:43 pm

First off, welcome to the site desertcamo! wave


I wouldn't say it's ruining objective based games, rather adding that extra cheesy layer. There really should be no reason that a player could rack up a 25 kill streak while camping in an objective game mode, and if that player gets his/her streak while actually going for an objective, then they absolutely deserve it.

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Post by desertcamo on Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:48 pm

This normally doesnt happen. Their are a couple maps that this seems to run rampant in though, Derail and Wastleland. the flat terrain and wide open terrain makes it a campers paradise. Some of my most frustrating wins comes from these two maps due to the opposing team 9 times out of ten camping the edges of the map sniping all those going for the HQ.
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Post by DitkaKenobi on Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:57 pm

After playing the game for awhile now, I honestly wish they would have just ended the killstreak rewards at 9 kills. Kills I get with Chopper Gunner/AC-130 feel cheap and unsatisfying to tell the truth. You can't even respect people with a huge K/D ratio at the end of a match anymore because they made it too easy.

My ideal killstreak rewards system would be:

3: UAV
4: Counter UAV
5: Sentry Gun/Predator Missile
6: Precision Airstrike
7: Harrier Strike/Attack Helicopter
9: Pave Low/Stealth Bomber

THAT'S IT! Everything else is ridiculous and ruins the flow of the game IMO.
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Post by o Taffy Apple x on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:00 pm

I think that maybe the NUKE should only be available as a random care package. Say IW servers could make it so that they only allow a nuke carepackage every 1000 drops (if possible)
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by MaTtKs on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:09 pm

o Taffy Apple x wrote:I think that maybe the NUKE should only be available as a random care package. Say IW servers could make it so that they only allow a nuke carepackage every 1000 drops (if possible)
Mah. I'd rather be nuked by an earned nuke rather than letting chance decide.

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Post by desertcamo on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:15 pm

I am not impressed with people who brag about how many times they have had the nuke when i am in a objective based lobby.
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Post by MaTtKs on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:30 pm

desertcamo wrote:I am not impressed with people who brag about how many times they have had the nuke when i am in a objective based lobby.
I've dropped around 20 nukes...all in Demolition.

Impressed? Razz

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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by Horrorman on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:32 pm

desertcamo wrote:I am not impressed with people who brag about how many times they have had the nuke when i am in a objective based lobby.

yea i´m not impressed either of them...i have people on my friends list with killstreaks high above 40 and the best one with 78, i wonder how they get it !? some of them must be really good campers...
btw i hate campers...
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by Horrorman on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:34 pm

MaTtKs wrote:
desertcamo wrote:I am not impressed with people who brag about how many times they have had the nuke when i am in a objective based lobby.
I've dropped around 20 nukes...all in Demolition.

Impressed? Razz

omg 20 Nukes, i even didn´t come close to a 25 killstreak to get one geek
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Post by JattPavit on Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:42 pm

A friend of mine has 28 nukes. I have 2 Crying or Very sad
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by desertcamo on Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:07 pm

In demolition when you are defending the points that isnt camping that is defending so I can see how that wouldnt mess up the flow of the game. However, in HQ 99.9% of the people who get nukes get them by camping and killing those people who are legitly going for the win by capping HQs
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Post by Kuna on Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:18 am

I think it's a nice add-on especially since it gives you the win when you're losing in domination by a 100 points for example. Sure players may camp, but with great teamwork, campers can usually be sniffed out. Overall, it's just another unpredictable part added to MW2 gameplay.
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by dungbeetle on Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:57 am

I agree with the OP.

Although a couple of alternatives to doing away with the Nuke in objective based games altogether might be:

1. Keep the Nuke in, but it only kills all the opposing team members and the game continues on until the objective is reached.
2. Create a separate 'Nuke-Free Objective Game' play list.
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Post by slack0matic on Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:17 am

I'm kinda pulled in both directions on this. If your good enough to get a nuke then great u deserve it. But on the other hand it is very frustrating to be playing a game of HQ and 5 points from winning the match and bam the other team throws the nuke....... Honestly I like all the killstreaks it makes the game more fun. I never have cared about k/d very much so I usually will focus on someone camping for a nuke. I'm also pretty good at taking out killstreak aircraft, so if someone is going to get a nuke on me they will have to earn all 25 without the help of air support. Laughing
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Post by Horrorman on Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:28 am

yesterday i had a match where a teammate got a nuke...but now it comes
-> it was Team Deathmatch, and he was running and gunning !!
my deepest respect coz this guy really earned it with skill, and not camping...
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Post by dungbeetle on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:26 am

Horrorman wrote:yesterday i had a match where a teammate got a nuke...but now it comes
-> it was Team Deathmatch, and he was running and gunning !!
my deepest respect coz this guy really earned it with skill, and not camping...

For sure.

If you get the Nuke in FFA or TDM (without using the TI boost Wink) then it's a victory well earned.
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Post by o Taffy Apple x on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:48 am

that's definitely well done in my book. to get a nuke on FFA without camping. WELL DONE THAT MAN
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Post by gibz22 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:10 pm

nukes r very rewarding. nuke boosters are buddy and r sooo fun to kill them. Very Happy
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Post by bowski477 on Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:37 pm

Just wrote a blog entry thanks to this thread check out my thoughts on nukes in objective based games.

here

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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by slack0matic on Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:44 pm

bowski477 wrote:Just wrote a blog entry thanks to this thread check out my thoughts on nukes in objective based games.

here

Very well put. although I have found that handling the problem people yourself by making THEM the new objective alot more rewarding. Twisted Evil
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Post by JattPavit on Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:37 pm

I was playing Domination and the enemy's score was 199 when i called in the nuke. Made me feel bad to call it in.
But the hell with nukes ftw!
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Re: Do you think the Nuke is ruining objective based games?

Post by gibz22 on Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:55 pm

no most people that get nukes in these are nuke boosters. just glance at ur scoreboard and ur map and see if there is any abnormal scores for the player, find them and screw them over
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