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Post by Unstoppable Ace on Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:52 am

Just wondering if anyone else uses this for hardcore. Seems to work awesomely for most hardcore setups. can spray+pray at close quarters, but gives you the option for mega long range headshots while providing the mobility of an SMG.

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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by lawtondannyboy on Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:00 am

Nope, I just use a silenced UMP.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by o Taffy Apple x on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:22 am

Anyone who uses a agog on any sub machine gun, needs locking up in a tower building with no internet connection and defo no Call of duty!!!!
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Post by N8-N on Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:32 am

o Taffy Apple x wrote:Anyone who uses a agog on any sub machine gun, needs locking up in a tower building with no internet connection and defo no Call of duty!!!!

yeah acogs are just... pointless!
I'm trying to get all attachments for the guns (excluding extended mags) and ACOGs just don't work... And the acog MP5K is just disgusting....

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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by o Taffy Apple x on Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:54 pm

Yeah unless your gonna sit in a corner and wait for someone to shoot in the back then there pointless on any gun, I only use lt literally for the challenge and then uts back to holo for me
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by JattPavit on Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:30 pm

Don't use the ACOG 2 much. Only on my m16.
I especially don't understand why you would put a ACOG on a sniper.(Except the M21: It can be used as an assault rifle and a better version of the Fal)
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Post by Horrorman on Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:44 pm

only doing challenges with the ACOG -> IMO it´s quiet useless
if i want to shot someone on a long distance, i use a Sniper or Assault rifle
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by MajorRod on Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:13 pm

Unstoppable Ace wrote:Just wondering if anyone else uses this for hardcore. Seems to work awesomely for most hardcore setups. can spray+pray at close quarters, but gives you the option for mega long range headshots while providing the mobility of an SMG.
I won't use it on Hardcore, but I will use the UMP on Core. The UMP is a Universal Machine Pistol, which is exactly what UMP stands for. But I feel it should not be used as a Primary Weapon on Hardcore. It needs no skill to use, just "Spray 'n Prey" like said. So I wouldn't use it on Hardcore, but I do like the ACR Assault Rifle. Very tactical, and works very well with any attachment.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by DitkaKenobi on Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:45 pm

For some reason the ACOG sight just throws my game off. It just feels like it takes up too much of the screen. Really cramps my style, lol.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by o Taffy Apple x on Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:31 pm

MajorRod wrote:
Unstoppable Ace wrote:Just wondering if anyone else uses this for hardcore. Seems to work awesomely for most hardcore setups. can spray+pray at close quarters, but gives you the option for mega long range headshots while providing the mobility of an SMG.
I won't use it on Hardcore, but I will use the UMP on Core. The UMP is a Universal Machine Pistol, which is exactly what UMP stands for. But I feel it should not be used as a Primary Weapon on Hardcore. It needs no skill to use, just "Spray 'n Prey" like said. So I wouldn't use it on Hardcore, but I do like the ACR Assault Rifle. Very tactical, and works very well with any attachment.

Not entirely true but close enough m8,lol. Its a sub machine gun, not pistol. Although spelt UNIVERSAL MACHINE PISTOLE. below will give explanation


The UMP (Universale Maschinenpistole, German for "Universal Submachine Gun") is a submachine gun developed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch. The UMP has been adopted by numerous agencies worldwide[citation needed] including the French Gendarmerie Nationale[citation needed] and U.S. Customs and Border Protection[citation needed]. Heckler & Koch developed the UMP as a successor to the MP5 though both remain in production
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by MajorRod on Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:01 pm

Yes. The UMP is classified as a Sub-Machine Gun... but it can also have a classification of a Machine Pistol. A machine pistol is a handgun-style, magazine-fed and self-loading firearm, capable of fully automatic or burst fire, and normally chambered for pistol cartridges.But let me correct you on your German Translation... the term "Machine Pistol" is a literal translation of "Maschine pistole" which is a German term for a hand-held automatic weapon.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by 1 on Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:06 pm

Not really a fan of the ACOG. It's decent on the snipers, not so much the M21 though.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by o Taffy Apple x on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:28 pm

MajorRod wrote:]But let me correct you on your German Translation... the term "Machine Pistol" is a literal translation of "Maschine pistole" which is a German term for a hand-held automatic weapon.

I think you would find buddy that the first translation was correct. Also it s confrimed by wikipedia as machine pistole- Sub-machine gun tongue
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by DitkaKenobi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:42 pm

Which proves my point that ANYONE can be a "Weapons Specialist" as your response was the entire first paragraph of the Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is NOT an official source of any information. It can be edited by anyone. Here's an excerpt from another wiki. COD wiki to be exact.

"The UMP (Universale Maschinenpistole, German for "Universal Machine Pistol") is a submachine gun developed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch. The UMP has been adopted by numerous agencies worldwide including the French Gendarmerie Nationale and U.S. Customs and Border Protection. Heckler & Koch developed the UMP as a successor to the MP5 though both remain in production"

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/UMP45

At the end of the day, maybe we should look to Wikipedia for the explanation of a Submachine Gun itself?

"A submachine gun (SMG) is a firearm that combines the automatic fire of a machine gun with the cartridge of a pistol, and is usually between the two in weight and size."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submachine_gun

Case closed. I can haz blue name?
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by Horrorman on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:03 pm

hey we are already in the Red Man Group battle
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by DitkaKenobi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:10 pm

Horrorman wrote:hey we are already in the Red Man Group battle

It was a facetious question. Don't worry Horrorman, I'm WSRF 4 life, lol!
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by o Taffy Apple x on Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:39 pm

And your point is?
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Post by DitkaKenobi on Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:03 pm

o Taffy Apple x wrote:And your point is?

My point was that UMP does stand for Universal Machine Pistol and that due to it's size/weight, which is in between that of a pistol and machine gun it qualifies as a submachine gun.
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by MajorRod on Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:44 pm

o Taffy Apple x wrote:
MajorRod wrote:]But let me correct you on your German Translation... the term "Machine Pistol" is a literal translation of "Maschine pistole" which is a German term for a hand-held automatic weapon.

I think you would find buddy that the first translation was correct. Also it s confrimed by wikipedia as machine pistole- Sub-machine gun tongue

The reason why I corrected you is because I am very fluent in German.

Ich spreche Deutsches sehr gut, ich erlernte Deutsches an einem sehr junges Alter und ich nehme sogar die Zeit hinzuzufügen, Umlaute und andere deutsche Interpunktion zu mein Sätzen. Bitten Sie einfach Horrorman.

Oh smart one... if you translate Maschine Pistole, it means, Machine Pistol. But if you translate Maschinenpistole, it means Sub-Machine Gun. If you knew German, you would know that the very smallest change in words can mean a completely different thing. That is why I said that the UMP can be classified 2 different ways, it is just how you interpret the Translation, and how you actually Translate the words too.

Oh. I have a question, do you use Wikipedia for all your Weapon Related Answers, or do you use your knowledge of weapons? Because, it seems that all your information comes for Wikipedia.
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Post by Horrorman on Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:37 pm

yes you are getting better MajorRod, and my English sucks...
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Re: ACOG UMP45

Post by slack0matic on Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:03 pm

I have never tryed a acog on a ump45. I dont like acog on anything except snipers. I like the acog on the barrett its faster for aiming.
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Post by o Taffy Apple x on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:45 am

One i wouldn't need to learn German for any reason what so ever. And secondly i only looked that up as i wasn't sure on it.
As a real soldier for 5 and half years i do know weapons(albeit British used)

So instead of trying to come across as a pompous quantum singularity hole,try getting over yourself
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Post by bowski477 on Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:39 pm

lets try and keep the "i know more that you do" to a minimum boys. Also lets try and respectful. If you have a problem with someone go to the mods and administrators.

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Post by o Taffy Apple x on Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:15 pm

My apologies
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Post by MajorRod on Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:50 pm

o Taffy Apple x wrote:One i wouldn't need to learn German for any reason what so ever. And secondly i only looked that up as i wasn't sure on it.
As a real soldier for 5 and half years i do know weapons(albeit British used)

So instead of trying to come across as a pompous quantum singularity hole,try getting over yourself
I wasn't trying to be a douchebag, but it seemed that you were coming all high and mighty on me. I apologized for any doubebagginess.... (Is that even a word?) Very Happy Wink
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